Only two of the photos I took of this frame were in focus. It's too bad because the welds on this frame were about as good as I can do. The tubeset is mostly Columbus Life....I don't use it much as it is a little light for riders about 150 lbs. but this rider is well shy of that. The result is a steel 'cross frame that is 3 lb.s, 11 oz. , not much more than the weight of an aluminum frame. The difference will be a bit more compliance in the ride and a little more shouldering room as the tubing is much smaller diameter. This is one of the few frames I have left to finish before 2010.